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Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

@Nay69, are you ok my friend xx

Hello @frog, @nashy, @jess_27

Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

@Shaz51

 

I am so grateful that you have reached out x

my weekend has been one from hell. My baby girl is treating me like a slave and my husband doesn’t respect me at all. 

I am in complete despair 😩 

Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

🤦‍♀️ Had a hormonal rant that wasn’t right for this thread so deleted it. Sorry 😔

Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

Oh @Nay69 I've been out of the (forum) loop for a bit trying to sort out my sleep, among other things. I'm sorry you had a horror day. It's so hard when all you are asking for is what every person needs and deserves - respect and cooperation - and yet those closest won't be in it. Just wanted to say I have felt similarly at times, and still do with my 16 yo. It's very draining and it hurts. I hope today has been a bit better and that you get some time for yourself. When other people fail you, you need to be your own friend and look after yourself as a priority. It took me decades to get to the point where I could begin to do that, and I hope you are not as slow getting there as me! 

Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

Hi @nashy @frog @Teej @Nay69 @Shaz51 @Mazarita @Adge @jess_27   and anyone else still following this post. I've wanted to respond for over a week but wasn't up to it until now.  Hoping this discussion continues.   I have bipolar 1 and complex PTSD.  For me  the main obstacles to relationships off-line (IRL) are trust and self-esteem (after a long history of abusive relationships and traumatic events).  And with some people I agree it's necessary to have boundaries (e.g. my mother, who has triggered hypomania in the past).  I was a disability carer at home for 18 years and in my massage therapy work for over 25 years and it took me several years after diagnosis to be able to put my mental health self-care needs above the habit of putting myself aside and taking on the other person's needs completely.

  I don't have many friends IRL but the ones I do I treasure and do my best not to vent too many of my problems with them.  Another challenge, especially for meeting potential new friends, is that I'm still not independently mobile and depend on support workers to get out mostly. 

I live with my brother and sister-in-law in a cabin in their back yard so maintaining a good relationship with them is essential.  It's a balance between showing a genuine interest in what's going on for them, sharing honestly about what's going on for me, giving them space when they need it, and socializing with them when invited to do so.  The last part can be tricky as it sometimes coincides with me wanting to withdraw but if I can put my big girl pants on and get out with them I mostly enjoy it and am getting a little less social anxiety over time as I know I am safe with them nearby.  They do introduce me to a wide range of good people, but again I don't want to talk about MH stuff with new people and a lot of the time it's my primary focus and it's hard to talk about anything else so I am quiet, mostly a fringe dweller when there's a gathering.  The hardest is when we go somewhere where there's a crowd of unknown people, especially venues like pubs for live music.  Too much potential for unpredictable behaviours by others.

But on-line is very different, particularly here in the forums where we are anonymous.  It's far easier to be completely open and even vulnerable at times.  And good for me to be called to support others with what they are going through sometimes too.  And good to practice conversation and find more positive ways of seeing things sometimes. 

Then theres 'friends' on fb - it's been a good way of staying connected to broader family and reconnecting with friends from the past and occasionally meeting new people that I have a good rapport with.  But it's easy to disappear 'down the rabbit hole' as my brother calls it, and spend too much time reading posts that have no relevance in my life.

One of the boundaries for me is not having 'disclosure' about my mental health or troubled past with anyone unless it's specifically relevant to what's being discussed and I feel safe that they won't disclose to anyone else.  That gets hard sometimes, knowing family knows my diagnoses and discusses me when I'm not present, but I have to accept that mostly that is because they really care and maybe need support themselves in order to better support me.  But it's a fine line between being encouraged by them versus being pressured.

This is a great thread with lots of food for thought.  Thanks for starting it @nashy and @jess_27.  Hoping it will continue.

Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

hey @nashy thank you for tagging me alot earlier when you started. i forgot to come back and actually have a read!
ill just follow along for now

Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

Hi @eth, lovely post about how the social aspects of living interract with your life. I appreciated more what you go through in this arena. Great to know you are steadily widening boundaries over time.

FB is great for contact with family of whom we see very little otherwise. I have an ongoing relationship there now with a cousin I mostly have had no contact with for decades. She supports and comments on my creative posts frequently. I do the same with her posts when they inspire me. Recently she posted 360 degree panoramas of Mars, as photographed by the new Mars Rover probe, fascinating!

I also met a cousin I'd never met in my life via contact on FB. We haven't really followed up since then, but it was great to come face to face with her at least once in my life. We had a long chat over an afternoon when she was visiting this town. At that time she sent me a lot of wonderful family photos, of grandparents at their wedding, great grandparents, and many others, including some photos I'd never seen of my Dad as a young man.

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Apologies for the late reply everyone! It is that hectic time of year when socialising becomes especially difficult for me. I’ve had several Christmas parties and loose ends to tie up and it is stresssful. Often I just want to hide away. 

 

I relate a lot to what @eth was saying about the complexity of social relationships when you live with bipolar and complex ptsd. Often my family dynamics and conflicts can be triggers for episodes. And the unpredictability of social environments such as the Christmas parties I have been at lately, particularly where alcohol is concerned, can be a trigger. 

 

But often despite my reservations I push through to socialise even when  I really don’t want to because it often makes me feel better in the long run. 

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hello @jess_27

my husband who has MI can not cope going out too much

Question -- Is it better to encourge more socializing or To try and please your love one as

Hello @nashy, @Mazarita, @outlander, @eth

@Former-Member, @Determined, @Smc, @Appleblossom, @Adge, @Former-Member, @Janiee

Re: Creating and Maintaining Social Connections - Continued!

Hi @Shaz51  I don't have a partner so I'm certainly no expert.  But I think it's probably best to find a balance between gently encouraging him to socialize (with and without you) and giving him space to be 'unto himself'.  But saying that is probably a lot easier than doing it.  What I do think is important is that you are able to socialize yourself, and that his lack of desire to do so doesn't isolate you.  That's my 2 bobs' worth.  Heart

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